Manson Fears
So, to the heart of the fears. Mind control, loss of self, one mind, Heavens Gate Suicides. Jim Jones Suicides. David Koresh. All these cults, those people dying, feeling powerless. And then there is the Manson Family - they didn’t sit in their compound and die, they came out and killed people. Charlie worked his will and control on them and out they came, wether they believed or not, slashing away.
You read me talking about surrendering yourself, of MOL members trying to have group mind, surrendering will to Kalindi. After many years Kalindi and the Lady still talk about how great each other is for having called each other forth, ucky for us all.
And I have talked about these sites that decry MOL as among the worst cults in the world, and if you go read those site you will read of depersonalization, control, thought control, intimidation, how lucky we are to have the leaders. Sounds pretty damn similar and scary, doesn’t it? Kind of like Manson.
Perhaps it could be the same, though there is some MOL history usually left out. For years many actively resisted and complained with every single change, they feared this and that, they wanted the organization to reflect their issues and struggles instead of learning from it. People who have designed the programs and were personal friends have left because they decided it was a bunch of crap. A lot of people were asked to go because their understanding of what is happening or should happen didn’t fit with where Kalindi wanted to go. Sounds to many like removing resistance to assure control. I know my first thought when this happened was a big “AH HA, the truth comes out” as I listened to all the people who left. Absolute control, everyone only read what the leader says to, don’t think for yourself, we will do that for you. Ah ha.
For instance the members are told to not read the anti sites so as not to get upset. Sounds like a lame explanation to keep members from reading THE TRUTH. Problem is a bunch of MOL members read my site. They find it interesting, occasionally insightful, and sometimes so off base they laugh. From my site they found the anti sites and read them. and were not impressed. Was I therefore banned? Were the members who went to the anti sites? Well this happened a few years aback and I still have not been refused meditation time, get invited to cookies and brownie night when they have them. The members who read the anti sites are still members. So my impression is MOL didn’t want them to read the sites, so as to not get upset. And the people that left did so because of their own issues and weren’t open to the change offered.
If you have read all my MOL content you know I am fairly positive about MOL but make “pithy” comments about them, which have been read and shared by those who read the site. The leaders never brink this up, they just want to know how I am developing spiritually and how I am. No correction, no suggestions, no comments. Why? Most likely the leaders don’t read this, but it hasn’t caused a big stir. Because they aren’t about controlling your thoughts. I would estimate at least 10% of the hits on those anti sites are current MOL members visiting out of curiosity even when it is suggested not to. Why? Curiosity, or they want to check their reality. They are generally sane people who have heard of cult mind control before joining MOL. Who would want to be trapped in that? You can read at the anti sights there are a lot of people who feel they were sucked in and were lucky to escape though they could have walked away whenever they wanted. The prison break image is their own fears. All this is read and discussed by the current folks. Then they move on.
As for the drugged induced distorted garbled Scientology we are all one psycho crap from the 60’s of , all brothers manifested in the leader - you must surrender to the leader to have true life, MOL doesn’t do that. They don’t demean the ego into subjugation to the leader. Notice I said distorted garbled Scientology psycho crap. We are in fact all brothers and sisters, we are of the same wonderful God who loves us each, though
You read me talking about surrendering yourself, of MOL members trying to have group mind, surrendering will to Kalindi. After many years Kalindi and the Lady still talk about how great each other is for having called each other forth, ucky for us all.
And I have talked about these sites that decry MOL as among the worst cults in the world, and if you go read those site you will read of depersonalization, control, thought control, intimidation, how lucky we are to have the leaders. Sounds pretty damn similar and scary, doesn’t it? Kind of like Manson.
Perhaps it could be the same, though there is some MOL history usually left out. For years many actively resisted and complained with every single change, they feared this and that, they wanted the organization to reflect their issues and struggles instead of learning from it. People who have designed the programs and were personal friends have left because they decided it was a bunch of crap. A lot of people were asked to go because their understanding of what is happening or should happen didn’t fit with where Kalindi wanted to go. Sounds to many like removing resistance to assure control. I know my first thought when this happened was a big “AH HA, the truth comes out” as I listened to all the people who left. Absolute control, everyone only read what the leader says to, don’t think for yourself, we will do that for you. Ah ha.
For instance the members are told to not read the anti sites so as not to get upset. Sounds like a lame explanation to keep members from reading THE TRUTH. Problem is a bunch of MOL members read my site. They find it interesting, occasionally insightful, and sometimes so off base they laugh. From my site they found the anti sites and read them. and were not impressed. Was I therefore banned? Were the members who went to the anti sites? Well this happened a few years aback and I still have not been refused meditation time, get invited to cookies and brownie night when they have them. The members who read the anti sites are still members. So my impression is MOL didn’t want them to read the sites, so as to not get upset. And the people that left did so because of their own issues and weren’t open to the change offered.
If you have read all my MOL content you know I am fairly positive about MOL but make “pithy” comments about them, which have been read and shared by those who read the site. The leaders never brink this up, they just want to know how I am developing spiritually and how I am. No correction, no suggestions, no comments. Why? Most likely the leaders don’t read this, but it hasn’t caused a big stir. Because they aren’t about controlling your thoughts. I would estimate at least 10% of the hits on those anti sites are current MOL members visiting out of curiosity even when it is suggested not to. Why? Curiosity, or they want to check their reality. They are generally sane people who have heard of cult mind control before joining MOL. Who would want to be trapped in that? You can read at the anti sights there are a lot of people who feel they were sucked in and were lucky to escape though they could have walked away whenever they wanted. The prison break image is their own fears. All this is read and discussed by the current folks. Then they move on.
As for the drugged induced distorted garbled Scientology we are all one psycho crap from the 60’s of , all brothers manifested in the leader -
also in a state of being covered by our made up separation until the we let go of it. However it the day I let go that matters, not the day do what I am told. That day, you stand strong, so very strong. Not a slave.
There are people who give their lives to Kalindi, do anything she says - doesn’t mean she wants their lives or obedience. Kalindi has Master thing going on but she approaches each person differently. For those who have only been around a few years it is expected there will be emotional release, asking for assistance, guidance, wanting to follow, until you get stabilized enough that you are no longer a follower but are strong. Then you dust yourself off and become of the quiet ones in the background supporting out of your strength. Not looking to Kalindi, but in the power that flows from your personal connection, where your longing for love has brought you to The Love, and you are fine. That is what Kalindi wants.
She is aware that many think she is insane. Even in the group members ask her and the leaders if they are insane. (just to give you an idea how open the group is people ask her this directly, and she answers them.) But she is also aware there is a Gate, an opening, to God that available that she wants to share. And if only one in a million consider her sane and listen, that is fine by her.
Is she a soul stealer? At first I thought so, but I kept coming because I was developing out of it, I kept a wary eye not to be dragged in “The Cult.” fearing brainwashing, only to realize this fear was my trap defining what I perceived. I have to ask you - of what use would it be for her to ensnare souls? Financial support? Could be. Control? Many “Masters” love the “I Am A Master Trip” and demand you acknowledge them. Maybe she is doing this, but the members don’t follow. There was an article in Coast magazine where she tells one guy to divorce a female member. Readers often assume he did. But he didn’t. They are happily married in San Francisco. I know them. Ok, so Kalindi say that. AND? The goal is YOU step into the Light and become whole, self realized and mastered. Not better than anyone else, just awake and ready to assist others.
So if you get involved with MOL and think there is too much Follow The Master crap going on, keep your defenses on and learn and get what you can. However if your sense of being “The One Who Sees and Knows” is threatened, you may need to surrender some while keeping those walls up until they serve no more.
This Master thing is one of those trips one runs into in all the religions, even the ones that don’t believe in them. There comes a point where ones awareness and power is so great that you think it is because of you - that you are the reason. But this is one of the final traps to inflate your self importance such that you become trapped and again bound. The truth is the person who is infused with The Power is the poor jerk that was selected to carry a heavy burden, and often needs to support of those around to maintain the connection.
Is there a need to maintain this connection, or is this simply the Master’s trip? Some say God connects directly, some say there is a need to hold the door open. Others say other things. It is hard to tell as I don’t speak for God. But in my experience Kalindi and those around her feel the door is held open for what ever reason and they come closer to God together.
Maybe it is my Christian background but I don’t particularly care for this Master thing. Just seems like another illusion of another religion. From my background God came as a human to atone for our desire to be separate to open the door, and there is no need for it to happen again, you just have to accept it and walk through. But other paths have Masters, as this one seems to have.
I tell you though She doesn’t want your soul. To come to her and not to God would mean her destiny is to trap thousands, not free them. She suggests you change, but won’t demand it.
There are people who give their lives to Kalindi, do anything she says -
She is aware that many think she is insane. Even in the group members ask her and the leaders if they are insane. (just to give you an idea how open the group is people ask her this directly, and she answers them.) But she is also aware there is a Gate, an opening, to God that available that she wants to share. And if only one in a million consider her sane and listen, that is fine by her.
Is she a soul stealer? At first I thought so, but I kept coming because I was developing out of it, I kept a wary eye not to be dragged in “The Cult.” fearing brainwashing, only to realize this fear was my trap defining what I perceived. I have to ask you -
So if you get involved with MOL and think there is too much Follow The Master crap going on, keep your defenses on and learn and get what you can. However if your sense of being “The One Who Sees and Knows” is threatened, you may need to surrender some while keeping those walls up until they serve no more.
This Master thing is one of those trips one runs into in all the religions, even the ones that don’t believe in them. There comes a point where ones awareness and power is so great that you think it is because of you -
Is there a need to maintain this connection, or is this simply the Master’s trip? Some say God connects directly, some say there is a need to hold the door open. Others say other things. It is hard to tell as I don’t speak for God. But in my experience Kalindi and those around her feel the door is held open for what ever reason and they come closer to God together.
Maybe it is my Christian background but I don’t particularly care for this Master thing. Just seems like another illusion of another religion. From my background God came as a human to atone for our desire to be separate to open the door, and there is no need for it to happen again, you just have to accept it and walk through. But other paths have Masters, as this one seems to have.
I tell you though She doesn’t want your soul. To come to her and not to God would mean her destiny is to trap thousands, not free them. She suggests you change, but won’t demand it.